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Fig 1: At Carlisle Station on 15th May 2018, my brother Gordon and Stanier 8F 2-8-0  No. 48151. Photo Credit: Malcolm Rush.

Youthful Days – Part 5

In Part 5 of local railway enthusiast Malcolm Rush’s memoirs, he is reunited with Stanier 8F 2-8-0 No. 48151 at Carlisle in 2018. Malcolm first saw this engine on his way to Derby Works Open Day in 1962.

You might wonder about the relevance of Fig.1 (above) to my article but I feel I can justify using it for a couple of reasons. You’ll see in my spotting records below that No. 48151 was the 9th engine I logged on my trip to Derby Works. She wasn’t, though, a cop for me. 48151 was, at the time, a Canklow (19C) engine. Withdrawn in January 1968 she ended up at Barry scrapyard where, in November 1975, she was purchased for preservation. In 2018 she was the steam motive power between Hellifield and Carlisle on “The Dalesman” which ran from Chester. The date of the run was significant because Tuesday 15th May 2018 was my brother Gordon’s 70th birthday. My wife Janet and I couldn’t miss the opportunity to arrange for the three of us to enjoy riding on a main line steam special on Gordon’s actual birthday. The wreath was being carried in memory of Albert Seymour, former Driver and Inspector with West Coast Railways.

The day brought back memories of seeing all the 8Fs at Kirkby so I am also sharing a short video I took on the day:

  • Carnforth
  • Departing Hellifield for Carlisle
  • Crossing Ribblehead viaduct
  • Light engine, back at Hellifield (Just listen to that clanking !!)
  • Departing Hellifield, heading back to Carnforth with support coach (lovely Stanier hooter !!)

Now, back to the 1960s. Derby Locomotive Works Open Day was an event to look forward to and my records show that, on Wednesday 22nd August 1962, I went there by special train from Kirkby-in-Ashfield, passing Toton sheds. Noteworthy entries include seeing all the initial 2,300 bhp “Peaks” (later Class 44) Nos. D1-D10 for my first time (it was as we passed through the Toton area that I saw at least D3, D10, D1, D7 and D6).

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Fig 2: Cecil Raikes at when it worked for the National Coal Board at Shipley Collieries, Derbyshire in the 1950’s.  Photo Credit: David Amos collection.

Then, at Derby Works, were Ivatt LMS Prototype Diesel Co-Co No.10001 and the Southern prototypes Diesel 1Co-Co1 Nos. 10201 and 10203. Also there was the now preserved Stanier 3 cylinder 2-6-4T No. 42500, the class 85 (as later known) Nos. E3071, E3084, Fowler 0-4-0 Departmental locomotive No. ED3, 4-4-0 Midland Compound No.1000 and in the museum was M.R. 4-2-2 Class 115 No. 118 (now No. 673), M.R. 2-4-0 Class 1 No. 158A, L.T.S.R. 4-4-2T Class 79 No. 80 “Thundersley’ and Mersey Railway, 0-6-4T No. 5 ‘Cecil Raikes’ (Fig. 2) I show below my spotting records for that day.

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Notebook pages of spotting records

During my research for the revision and updating of these memories, in 2009, I came across an interesting fact which, had I known shortly after the Open Day, might have rather upset me! The main Open Day was on a Saturday and I have found, via the Web, an account of “Derby through the Diesel Years 1947 – 1972”. Within that it says “On display at the Works Open Day at the end of August were “Britannia” 4-6-2 No.70048 ‘The Territorial Army 1908-1958’ and “Coronation” 4-6-2 No.46256 ‘Sir William A Stanier FRS’”. Obviously, as it turned out, these were only at Derby for the main Saturday Open Day and both of these engines would have been major cops for me. Despite, at that time, being allocated to Annesley 70048 turned out to be one of the “Britannia” Pacifics I never saw. Within its class it was, for me, one of those “must see” engines, primarily because it boasted the biggest nameplates of the “Britannia” class. Alas, though, it wasn’t to be. More on that in Part 8!

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Fig 8: Midland Compound 4-4-0 No. 1000 takes water at Garsdale on 12th February 1983. Photo Credit: Malcolm Rush. Colourised version. 

After seeing the Midland Compound 4-4-0 No. 1000  at Derby Loco Works Open Day on 22nd August 1962 I was, 21 years later, able to ride behind her, seen in Fig 8 at Garsdale, on the Settle to Carlisle line, piloting “Jubilee” 4-6-0 No. 5690 ‘Leander’ during a water and photo stop on the southbound Cumbrian Mountain Pullman on 12th February 1983. I was travelling on that railtour with my brother Gordon and two of my work colleagues, Phil and Pete. We were hauled by steam from Carlisle to Carnforth. At Hellifield the Compound and Leander were replaced by Class K1 2-6-0 No. 2005 piloting Black 5 4-6-0 No. 5407. Now, we had all got out of the train at Hellifield to watch the engine changeover. At some point the replacement engines blew their whistles – this was the sign for the passengers to join the train in readiness for the departure. I made my way back to our seats and settled down with Gordon and Phil. The train started moving and we fully expected Pete to join us. However, we were astonished to see, as the train gathered speed, Pete’s face with a shocked expression looking anxiously up at us from the trackside. It transpired that he had been lulled into a false sense of security by the number of people around him who had not re-joined the train. He thought the train was going to do a photo run-past (which it had done previously at Appelby) whereas, in fact, the people around him were just onlookers, not passengers. Fortunately, there was a passenger service from Hellifield to Leeds and from there Pete was eventually able to find his way home

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Fig 9: M.R. 4-2-2 “Spinner” No. 673 being turned on the triangle at Westhouses on 21st May 1980. Photo Credit: Malcolm Rush.

I saw M.R. 4-2-2 “Spinner” No. 118 (now No. 673) at Derby Loco Works Open Day on 22nd  August 1962.  Fig 9 was taken nearly 18 years later on 21st May 1980 when 673 was on her way to Bold Colliery to take part in the 150th anniversary of the Rainhill trials. 673 was being hauled, in steam, by diesel Class 25 No. 25136. Also being hauled by 25136 was ex. Midland Railway 4F 0-6-0 No. 4027 and ex. S & D J Railway 7F 2-8-0 No. 13809, both in steam. The starting point was the Midland Railway Centre at Butterley and this photo was taken at Westhouses. No. 673 was facing the wrong way and she was turned on the triangle at Westhouses. This turning process meant that No. 673 ran under her own steam on BR lines.

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Fig 10: Stanier 3 cylinder 2-6-4T No. 42500 at Derby Loco Works, probably in 1964. Photo: Malcolm Rush. Colourised version.

I copped 42500 on my visit to Derby Works on 22nd August 1962. Also in the photograph is a cab of the Southern prototype 1Co-Co1 Diesel  No. 10201. The Stanier engine 42500 is preserved as part of the National Collection and, at the time of preparing this “Youthful Days” version, is on display at the National Railway Museum, York.

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Fig 11: Although not one of the same class as ‘The Green Knight’, B.R Standard Class 4 4-6-0 No. 75069 brings back that Derby Works paint shop memory as she leaves Nottingham on 13th September 1987, heading for Derby and Matlock. Photo Credit: Malcolm Rush

A memory of another later visit to Derby Works comes to mind when, on 6th June 1963 whilst passing the paint shop (which was not usually open to visitors), a kindly railway worker said to a group of us “Heh lads, come and have a look what’s in here.” In so saying he opened the door to the paint shop. A marvellous sight presented itself. Stood inside was B.R. Standard Class 5 4-6-0 No. 73086 ‘The Green Knight’ after having just been painted. Finished in green, the paintwork gleamed brilliantly as the daylight bathed it through the open doorway. The worker looked proud at what he was showing us and I always felt that he was pleased to have shared the sight with others. Nowadays, of course, heritage steam is usually well turned out but back in the 60’s seeing an engine in sparkling ex. Works condition was not the norm for me.


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